Comments: Check your premises on Immigration

And, as Penn & Teller pointed out, "they keep putting up those Shakira posters!"

You are setting up a triple bank shot my brother. You have piled a lot of "bad stuff" into a basket and linked it to immigration. I posit it at least as likely that expanded immigration would draw freedom lovers who come here for opportunity. (Not having to hide in a 100%deg; railcar would be a draw to the entrepreneurial class).

I see the common thread in your list as education and not immigration.

Posted by jk at October 27, 2017 12:28 PM

Yes, I realize that it looks like I'm drawing a cause and effect conclusion. What I'm really suggesting is that all of these issues are evidence of manipulation of public opinion for political ends. The left manipulates toward a larger, more socialist government. The non-left (I'll avoid calling it "the right") manipulates to defend against the left.

Regular folks who love their freedom will pay any price and bear any burden to prevent America becoming Europe (or worse) and that includes eschewing free trade and immigration.

My further contention is that such a stance is temporary, and only reluctantly taken in the emergency situation we find ourselves in. Restore the crumbling edifice of Constitutional limits on government and your immigration and trade arguments will not fall on defensive ears.

In other words, the popular "nationalist" sentiment is not poorly educated, as you seem to be suggesting, but fully informed on the historical rise and fall (and rise again) of socialism. And not just in the USA.

Posted by johngalt at October 27, 2017 1:17 PM

Point of order: "did I say "uneducated?" I thought "uneducated" but I'm too clever to say it out loud. No, I meant that the common thread was our great nation's failed education system, not that people who disagree with me are uneducated.

I'm unmoved that a bad idea is temporary. We still have the Mohair subsidy and the ethanol mandate has been extended a few years.

More to the point, it is not a policy to me, it's a guiding principle that we chase freedom and prosperity through an enlarged economic sphere, it is not to be regulated and deferred.

Posted by jk at October 27, 2017 1:44 PM

Well, like they used to say, "There's a war on you know."

Posted by johngalt at October 27, 2017 4:02 PM

Why not just shorten it to:

"Immigrants vote for Democrats, and thus give demographic strength to their other projects, regardless of what they may be?"

Seems to be a simpler, and much more defensible, statement of your drift, if I understand it right.

Posted by T. Greer at October 28, 2017 1:27 AM

Good question TG. I don't say that "immigrants vote for Democrats" because I don't think that's true. I don't even think all illegal [undocumented] immigrants vote for Democrats.

Further, when it comes to discrediting America's history or her contributions to the world, I don't think even blue collar Democrats will vote for a Democrat.

Posted by johngalt at October 30, 2017 3:47 PM
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