February 21, 2017

Welcome to Swedenistan

It’s like a laboratory experiment gone horribly wrong,’ one told me. ‘But the scientists won’t admit they’ve made a monstrous mistake. So Sweden isn’t Sweden as we knew it – it’s become Swedenistan.

Trump right on Sweden: Once again in that "seriously, not literally" way of his I'm still getting used to. Look for the media to start spinning - in line with the elitists in Swedish government - the riots as being caused by a vid-- I mean, Trump.

1st, my story: I worked for a Swedish company for 5 years, right around Y2K. The conversation started after Foreign Minister Anna Lindh was stabbed to death in downtown Stockholm, in broad daylight. Though the investigation eventually dubbed the 2nd generation Serb killer mentally unfit, "according to eyewitness accounts, his actions appeared deliberate and systematic."

The mild-mannered businessmen with whom I worked fully and forcefully acknowledged what was, according to him, well known in Sweden, even back in 2003: unfettered immigration is a problem, it's increasing crime and ruining Sweden and the media is complicit with the government in covering it up. I've since lost my 1st-person access, but IMO, the solution has apparently been for the government to roll the police into the coverup. I've since read stories of media and police coverups of immigrant-based crime sprees, in that special Rotherham way, you know: it had been covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism.

Apparently, the 'thing to do' a while back for swedish-born male teenagers is to patrol the streets of cities like Malmo and Gothenburg to keep their females safe. I imagine the police have put a stop to such provocation. Sweden is now the rape capital of the western world (2nd behind Lesotho for those with broader boundaries.) The wiki article on it notes two shocking stats:
- The number of convictions has remained relatively unchanged since 2005, [despite a 50% increase in reported attacks]
- individuals with an immigrant background, excluding nordic countries, made up 30% of all rape convictions

The conviction rate is apparently very low: 10-20%.

In last night's riots, started by an attempted arrest, a police officer even fired at but missed the perp, then the police bolted: guess who's in charge now in Rinkeby?

This is summarized last May in the JP article from this posts' title. Money quotes from a soft-spoken retired orthodontist:

The radical, Left-wing establishment became totally obsessed with multiculturalism and political correctness, which we didn’t need reminding had been part of Swedish ethos for centuries.
‘But this was different. It was verging on authoritarian diktat and the open-door immigration policy was threatening the nation’s cohesion. Only a fool couldn’t see this, but there was a conspiracy of silence, or rather a policy to whitewash the adverse effects of accepting half-a-million immigrants from the Middle East, who plainly weren’t interesting in adopting Sweden’s values and Swedish culture.
‘The politicians, the media, the intellectuals…they all played their parts in pandering to this dangerous ideology and, sadly, it’s changing the fabric of Swedish society irreversibly.’
his wife added
‘If you disagree with the establishment, you’re immediately called a racist or fascist, which we’re definitely not. At times I felt that this was what it must have been like to live in the old Soviet Union.’

This is what JG and I fear from the open-doors policy Obama tacitly pursued. This is what Trump brings to the table: lithium for the elitist class. He or Sessions may bluster for slamming the door shut, but I really think we'll end up with a time out and slow down.

We all know what the Ricardo-Randian open borders, free market society "looks" like, but I fear our current environment (complete with lavish benefits that allow these "youths" to have so much time and resentment to accumulate) is much more like Stockholm than Fountainhead.

Open borders or Welfare State (as much the problem in Sweden as Islam, far as I can tell): can't have both.

Immigration Posted by nanobrewer at February 21, 2017 2:26 PM

Personally and philosophically, in an ideal world, I'll take the open borders and pass on the welfare state (TM). But we're not living in anything close to an ideal world. Until then we need regulated national borders.

Don't get me started on the Welfare State. I'll just start swearing and spitting and people will want to call me vile names.

Posted by: johngalt at February 21, 2017 3:57 PM

I hate to hijack a good immigration argument. Mostly because everyone else is so wrong and I am so right. But I wanted to ask a different question about Sweden, videlicet, "Whaaaa????"

I am out of credible sources. Some bright and fiercely conservative folks at Friends of Best of the Web on Facebook were joining Reason to say that there really is no sizable problem in Sweden, beyond the cold and that horrid smell of lutefisk.

The rape stats are like those on a US college campus, they say, reports are up because the definition has changed. Convictions are not following because many of the claims are frivolous.

The Facebook wars rage on. My conservatives (other conservatives) post scores of videos and articles showing it to be "a hellhole" and "a war zone."

I have been seeing these for long enough that I had internalized them. When the kerfuffle struck, I immediately took the President's side. "Well," I thought, "to be fair they do have a lot of problems. I had heard of no-go areas for western women and even law enforcement." But are those true?

My lefty friends are in full Jon Stewart, CODE-4 SMUG alert. There has not been a crime in Sweden since 1924 and that stoopid Trump fellow is fabricating again.

I got no idear and would be interested in believeable assessments.

Posted by: jk at February 21, 2017 4:18 PM

Accepting that there is significant trouble in Europe from Muslim immigration, I'm still not onboard with Trump-Sessionsism.

Conservatives telling me we have to close the borders because of Sweden rhyme with Progressives' calling to emulate Swedish health care or Danish education. These are small countries with small populations and small economies. I suggest neither their problems nor solutions necessarily scale.

I'll concede Europe might be an argument against "open borders." With very little to do with welfare, rather, can a tolerant, pluralistic society accept overwhelming numbers of residents without those qualities. Consider me reevaluating.

BUT, this is not the discussion today.

We do not have rafts of refugees crashing on our shores. We were discussing our nation of 300,000,000 allowing 10,000 - 30,000 refugees for humanitarian reasons, all of whom would be vetted on some level.

Not only are we not going to allow that, we're going to kick out graduate students and foreign workers if they come from "scary" places.

Not my vision of freedom. Not my vison of courage. Certainly not my vision of prosperity.

Posted by: jk at February 21, 2017 4:56 PM

Um, the borders ARE closed. There is a big, beautiful, wall of legality obstructing the free immigration of anyone from anywhere at anytime. All of the law abiding folks stop at that wall. Unfortunately, there are those pesky lawless peeps.

And even the so-called "muslim ban" of the seven Obama nations is not a closing of the border. It is a pause. You know, so that we can impose a vetting process that includes meeting everyone face-to-face, at least.

The grad students and foreign workers were an error, fixed by direction to the relevant agencies, but still not good enough for a grandstanding judiciary. So there will be a new order that puts it in writing. If they keep up the pissing contest with the President then we have a genuine article constitutional crisis.

P.S. Ninety days.

Posted by: johngalt at February 21, 2017 6:22 PM

Interesting reading at www.whyileftsweden.com.

Including Swedish Police Release Extensive Report Detailing Control of 55 'No-Go Zones' By Muslim Criminal Gangs.

Posted by: johngalt at February 21, 2017 6:31 PM

I'm hip with JG's comment:

I'll take the open borders and pass on the welfare state
I'll even take a chance on curtain #3!

I took a quick look at 'WhyILeftSweden' as part of my research and thought it a tad too fringe-y.

I can only add that of scores swedes from Ericsson that took Long Term Assignments in the U.S. all but one stayed. of the americans that took LTA's in Sweden, none stayed.

Posted by: nanobrewer at February 23, 2017 1:17 AM | What do you think? [6]