December 1, 2009

JG 1, JK 0

I withheld judgment that ClimateGate was a game changer until it got a little more mainstream coverage. Blog Brother Johngalt more approached the "It's Christmas Day and I got a pony!" view.

Well, he has the setup for a pony, and -- while it's still just a blog post -- this <heavenly music>New York Times</heavenly music> blog post by Science Editor John Tierney is a big deal.

Iím not trying to suggest that climate change isnít a real threat, or that scientists are deliberately hyping it. But when they look at evidence of the threat, they may be subject to the confirmation bias ó seeing trends that accord with their preconceptions and desires. Given the huge stakes in this debate ó the trillions of dollars that might be spent to reduce greenhouse emissions ó itís important to keep taking skeptical looks at the data. How open do you think climate scientists are to skeptical views, and to letting outsiders double-check their data and calculations?

Deleterious Anthropogenic Warming of the Globe Posted by John Kranz at December 1, 2009 11:19 AM

It was just obvious to me that this was a game changer. Politics certainly isn't pure but hard science is. A scientist's career is defined by his record of publication. Anyone who dares attempt to explain away what has been exposed here runs a serious risk of ruining his scientific credibility, tainting the entirity of his published work, and putting himself clearly in the bin labeled "politicians" and removing himself from the one labeled "scientists."

Climategate represents sort of a "Gore Doctrine" for the climate change cabal. Every one of them is in effect being asked, "Are you with us, or are you with the scientists?"

Posted by: johngalt at December 2, 2009 9:10 AM

It reinforces the complaints that I have made (rhymes with Snarl Copper) about the unscientificness of the movement.

But it does not expose a hoax as some have claimed. The believers truly believe. As long as well funded people believe, it is not going away.

Posted by: jk at December 2, 2009 10:01 AM | What do you think? [2]