December 13, 2006

A Lefty Peacenik Responds

JohnGalt scared me off the link in his thoughtful post when he mentioned it was 18 pages. Like many, I read and blog when I am compiling code or waiting for something to load. Long articles and magazines are weekend work. I got to it last night and it is very good.

In "No Substitute for Victory," John Lewis calls for America to match the aggressiveness shown its enemies in WWII. He compares the responses (we did nuke Japan) and the efficacy of those responses. Germany and Japan are peaceful democratic allies today, while the MidEast seems to be slipping away after our less aggressive involvement there.

It's a smart piece and well worth the read (if you don't print it, it's not 18 pages). There is certainly much to agree with. A more muscular approach would serve American interests and both hasten the arrival and increase the probability of lasting stability in the region. Lewis is also interesting in his comparison of Japanese Shintoism as a religion vs. a government to Islam as a religion and Islamic states. Lastly, he is right to target Iran as focus in the fomenting and distribution of terror and Islamic Statism.

Yet, the article's main premise is a call to dismiss the "hearts and minds" approach entirely and to use overwhelming force to produce fear and unconditional surrender. The reference to A-bomb success in Japan (not to mention JohnGalt's bold type "burn that regime to the ground") clearly call for nuclear weapons (which our C-in-C cannot even pronounce) to be used.

Lewis claims this would happen if not for the Objectivist bete-noirs: pragmatists and altruists. I'll not take the flag for the altruists, but I will voice pragmatic concerns to Lewis's approach.

We were fortunate in enemies in WWII. There were Japanese, Italian, and German states to attack and there were also leaders of those states who could execute enforceable surrenders. There are a billion Muslims in the world in the MidEast, across Asia to the pacific rim, Europe, Boulder, everywhere. I want to ask Mr. Lewis whom you nuke after 9/11. He has his sights squarely on Iran now, but post 9/11 you have the Wahabbist wackos in Saudi Arabia, Taliban in Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Yassir Arafat in the Palestinian controlled areas. The phrase “target rich” comes to mind. You still leave the most populous Muslim nation in the world, Indonesia, where clerics – as Lewis describes – seek to impose an Islamic State.

That’s where a little pragmatism comes in handy. I think that the President was right to topple the Taliban and I number myself among the shrinking minority who still support toppling Hussein’s Baathist fear society in Iraq.

I highly highly recommend that every American read “The Looming Tower” by Lawrence Wright. It is a sober look at the enemy we face, its history, and the reason that drives them. I used the word reason carefully. These folks build their arguments on a faulty premise, but they are rational actors.

I’m fine with the idea of big force. I think that both wars in Iraq needed Sherman’s drive to the sea. I just don’t agree that we have a target we can scare sufficiently to make us safe.

Posted by jk at December 13, 2006 10:14 AM

The quote was not "scare the regime to the ground."

I'm afraid you have largely missed the point of the article. In WWII we did not "nuke" every Shintoist, or even every enemy soldier. Instead we publicly stated "You are our enemy. We have the power, and we have the will, to destroy your armed forces and, if necessary, your homeland. Abandon your ambitions of world conquest, OR ELSE." Naturally the enemy did not believe us. He did not think we had the POWER to destroy him. When we showed him we did, he surrendered.

Today, the enemy does not think we have the WILL to destroy him. And he is right.

Your observation that Mr. Lewis is only now advocating the destruction of the Iranian regime is a fair criticism. I too only recently came to the realization that 9/11, like every other Islamist attack on the west, is primarily in furtherance of the purposes of the Iranian regime. But here's someone who knew this fact less than a month after 9/11: http://www.leonardpeikoff.org/essays/end.htm

But he wasn't necessarily advocating nuclear war against Iran. "Eliminating Iran's terrorist sanctuaries and military capability is not enough. We must do the equivalent of de-Nazifying the country, by expelling every official and bringing down every branch of its government. This goal cannot be achieved painlessly, by weaponry alone. It requires invasion by ground troops, who will be at serious risk, and perhaps a period of occupation. But nothing less will "end the state" that most cries out to be ended."

Posted by: johngalt at December 14, 2006 1:09 AM

No, but my point was that we were fighting an enemy with a centralized command structure and a well known geographic base. I guess my inner Hayekian wants us to be distributed and our enemies centralized.

I remember hearing Dr. Peikoff call to nuke Iran right after 9/11. I think we would have had to occupy Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan, leaving Somalia, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and the United Kingdom to plan Jihad against us.

We agree on a more muscular approach. I disagree that we have the means to subjugate a billion people that circumnavigate the globe. Not with our present arsenal.

Posted by: jk at December 14, 2006 10:32 AM

I think I can safely say you remember hearing Dr. Peikoff "call to nuke Iran right after 9/11" from the essay I linked to in my previous quote. I know this because it is the same essay he purchased an entire page of the WSJ to print on October 2, 2001, and because I posted that page on my office door.

In reality, Dr. Peikoff mentions nuclear weapons twice in the essay:

"A proper war in self-defense is one fought without self-crippling restrictions placed on our commanders in the field. It must be fought with the most effective weapons we possess (a few weeks ago, Rumsfeld refused, correctly, to rule out nuclear weapons)."

and...

"When should we act, if not now? If our appeasement has led to an escalation of disasters in the past, can it do otherwise in the future? Do we wait until our enemies master nuclear, chemical, and biological warfare?"

I remembered the "Nuke Iran" flavor as well, but upon reflection he clearly advocates conventional warfare, though in the manner used by George Smith Patton Jr. and not in the manner we've witnessed since.

I see that I've been lax in identifying who "the enemy" is, so allow me to quote Peikoff once more:

"Many nations work to fill our body bags. But Iran, according to a State Department report of 1999, is "the most active state sponsor of terrorism," training and arming groups from all over the Mideast, including Islamic Jihad, Hamas, and Hezbollah. Nor is Iran's government now "moderating." Five months ago, the world's leading terrorist groups resolved to unite in a holy war against the U.S., which they called "a second Israel"; their meeting was held in Teheran. (Fox News 9/16/01)"

Posted by: johngalt at December 14, 2006 3:25 PM | What do you think? [3]